Very basic pack goat question

[sdgoatlady]

sdgoatlady
Hello
I to am in your situation kind of.
My two "Stow away" goats came with "Manners"
I do have a little training advantage from working horses for 38 + years.
Now I have (2) more "Brat" kids born in March running around. Of course still bucklings.
They have not been trailed out off the farm with the big boy's YET.
I will wait on that till after the family jewels come off.
But they exhibit everything you described in your goat.
All of the above "Advice is Good"
For myself I just knee them out of my way or put a boot into them like a Boss Goat would do.
Goats among the herd structure are hard on each other.  You have to be "Boss" Goat" all the time.
Nanno likes her hat method, some people like using a walking stick.
I would /will go with the walking stick method.
Why do you think that there are so many references to the the "Shepards Crook" in the Bible and other historical sources for herding goats and sheep?
I had the advantage of bonded goats to start with even though I had NO Idea of trail manners with goats.  
Note: My old boys I did not go into public(Walkabout) with until I knew the goat boy's had bonded with me.
Around the farm walkabouts if the got in front and stopped they got a boot in the back end.
They learned real fast to stay in trail and not try and lead and block the Boss goat.
The "Kids"after they lost the family jewels will learn the same manners.
Happy Trails
hihobaron Blizzard,Fuzzy.Pete and Sam

Thank you so much for your input!!  All of my goats are very bonded to me so that's a very good start.  AND I have no problem whatsoever playing boss goat - I cured Miguel of jumping up on me when I carry his food with some swift kicks and pushes - so I know he can learn.  I just need to start training on the trail instead of chatting with people and enjoying the scenery!!