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Location: Greer , South Carolina
Bio: Hello all, from the foot hills of the Blue Ridge Mountains
BIO: 38 years as a horseman, Riding,Driving,Horse Camping ,Travel with horse all over the USA. Worked for USFS in California as a goat header In both the Los Angeles Unit and San Bernadeno Unit. (A few Years ago) Summer Job using a heard of goats for brush control in the high ranges of the areas.
Me,my two horse, a pack mule and 25 goats up high enough to get out of the valley summer heat. I worked in areas that very few people get to see except hard core back packers.
Had a very good base camp set up because I could pack lots more equipment with horses and mule than Backpackers. I had to move the site about every 2 weeks for new feeding area for the critters.
Shared camp with several backpackers that when in my camp though they were in a high class hotel. :)
Horses I have had all my life and used them many ways.
Goats before working with USFS were just a couple farm pet wethers.
Kept horses company, Ran with my Dobermans (one thought he was one.)
Went for truck rides with dogs in cab of truck and a Big Nubian with two Doberman in the cab makes things interesting.
I am a contributor to Prepper site http:// mainsreampreppers.com
Presenter at Prepper Camp in Saluda , North Carolina on using your back yard horse in emergency condition, care of , treatment of, containment of horses and now goats under SHTF conditions.
Prepper Camp is the largest event of it's type on the entire East Coast.
Also the only one Completely Outdoors for 3 full days.
I'll save the rest of the story for later.
Happy Trails
Your Goats: Current Goats.
Or better titled:
How I ended up with Stow Away goats.
Re: Prepper Camp above.
When I received the invite to present horses during the event I was tickled.
The the boss of the event asked did I know anyone that would like to bring in goats for milking /dairy product presentation.
As it happens my neighbors here at what I refer to as BC1 (Base Camp 1)
Have milking goats (MMMM Good) Though ask them??
Well that did not work out.
My Lady (Susan) heard me talking about the idea to them.
After that conversation with neighbor finished and I got back to barn.
I got a ear full , she has a good friend in Kentucky were she is from that also runs Dairy goats and has not seen in years.
Well a couple phone calls and some e-mail we have 12 goats coming down from Kentucky with kids for sale and a couple wethers to do a very crude presentation on goat packing. Yes, I can pack a horse or mule.
So I figured I can help out with the goat packing presentation.
Always some extra saddle bags,cantle bags etc. laying around my barn from years of horse work. Figure fine I can adapt a couple for a demonstration pack set up.
I had plenty of time to look up lots of goat packing info on line to come down to goat size from my horse experience.
The more I found out about goat packing the bigger my "Itch" got to get some again.
Well any way Prepper Camp comes around.
We get all the livestock settled in.
I get to look and handle both the boys. (Goats)
The one is 4 years old de-horned wether which I liked.
Pete is a Togenburg X Alpine and thinks he is people. Has good manners.
The Second: Sam is a Alpine X Bore 6 month old billy
(Still had his Jewels) but did not smell!!!!
He was nice and well mannered,both were bottle babies. :)
Any way she was hoping to sell them there just to cut down her herd size.
No interest:
By the end of the weekend I had a BAD case of Goat Fever !!!!!!!!!
I have lots of brush they can eat,horses to keep company, and play with packing them.
Ya'll know how we convince ourselves you really need that animal. :) :)
I did a good job of resisting the urge to commit.
The last presentation done with the goats on Sunday was castration/gelding?? What is it called in the Goat World???
Sam was the prime demonstration.
All went well it was what I in my horse experience would be called a "Standing Castration"
Done in the milking stand with a head gate, and it went very quickly and and with no screaming from Sam. Cleaned him up good then flushed the incision good with Novasan after the deed was done turned him lose with his buddies for the night.
Monday morning cleaned him up again applied Fursan Ointment to incision site , gave him a shot of antibiotics turned him back in with the other goats.
Note to Self: Our KY friend is a RN that works in Emergency and knows her way around with a scapule has had goats for a long time..
I will be very polite to he so I don't end up in a headstall on the milking platform.
Moving on:
Monday: we took down camp Girls detailed me to to load all the heavy gear while they took down electric fence and loaded animals.
As it worked out I finished gear loading at the same time they finished with fence and livestock.
I checked my horses they were fine face full of hay bag which is normal for them in the trailer.
Said our Good-by's and pulled out for home. Only about 35 miles for us.
Susan (my lady) was running lead with her truck and equipment trailer , while I was running with 4 horse gooseneck pulling with my 1 ton old Ford
Duely extended cab 460 gas and running with a 5 speed manual transmission in the steep "Narrow" mountain roads to get back to the better roads close to BC 1.
It was engine braking most all the way down hill :)
Any way got home tired and safe.
Plan was unload horses a few critical things,clean up and go to bed.
Well plan change fast.
I was grabbing stuff that need to go into house and Susan unloaded horses and tied them to trailer.
I checked horses for any transport injures and then Susan comes out of trailer with Pete and Sam as says "Look" What kind of Stow-A- Ways I found.
Two lessons learned from above.
Never turn down a good goat or 2 for free.
Never trust 2 conniving woman not to hatch out a plot or two.
Pete and Sam are now "Fixtures" here and have better off lead manners than a lot of dogs I have known.
Besides they like me. :)

Happy trails