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07-27-2017, 09:09 PM
Nanno, I'm glad your LGD is doing better, the symptoms you describe sound like the way that lyme disease presents itself in canines it's odd that these tick borne diseases seem so present but are elusive/non existant in the testing.
I just sent out a trace elements panel on my does and Huck, and ordered a water testing kit to get a baseline and check for deficiencies.
I believe 3 deworming treatments is due to the parasite life cycle being between 14-21 days, or atleast thats how we treat in small animal medicine. That is an interesting article on the Meningeal worm i'll keep that in mind.
I don't think there has been an approved study at this point but there are many isolated studies and incidents where banamine given IM causes muscle damage in horse, cattle, and goat. I had an in depth conversation with a vet about how they gave this steer many IM injections such as, banamine, other drugs, needles that were rolled in the dirt, different sized needles and quantities of liquids, then they euthanised and cut open all the injection sites, banamine had the worst reaction to the muscle out of all the injection sites. It was suggested to gives strictly IV, or SQ but with SQ there is some question of absorption rate vs efficacy. I've found that SQ works well for low grade fevers, mild pain and non emergency situations, but in emergencies I always go IV.
To be honest, I'm not convinced as to why they suggested I use Ivermectin in the first place. Doramectin was working just fine (according to my past fecal test), and now I'm using a dewormer in the same family. I know that vets generally have a vague idea of goat medicine so I always question them but having worked with 6 vets at this point I'm willing to try what they say. Luckily I always give more dewormer than suggested. I'm giving the injectable Ivermectin orally, so they are getting 0.6mg/kg, everything I find says 0.4mg/kg besides tennessee meat goats which states to Inject the injectable at a rate of 0.9mg/kg. That was a mouthful, the good news is I will be doing another fecal soon, the last one wasn't bad the highest epg was 23.
I just sent out a trace elements panel on my does and Huck, and ordered a water testing kit to get a baseline and check for deficiencies.
I believe 3 deworming treatments is due to the parasite life cycle being between 14-21 days, or atleast thats how we treat in small animal medicine. That is an interesting article on the Meningeal worm i'll keep that in mind.
I don't think there has been an approved study at this point but there are many isolated studies and incidents where banamine given IM causes muscle damage in horse, cattle, and goat. I had an in depth conversation with a vet about how they gave this steer many IM injections such as, banamine, other drugs, needles that were rolled in the dirt, different sized needles and quantities of liquids, then they euthanised and cut open all the injection sites, banamine had the worst reaction to the muscle out of all the injection sites. It was suggested to gives strictly IV, or SQ but with SQ there is some question of absorption rate vs efficacy. I've found that SQ works well for low grade fevers, mild pain and non emergency situations, but in emergencies I always go IV.
To be honest, I'm not convinced as to why they suggested I use Ivermectin in the first place. Doramectin was working just fine (according to my past fecal test), and now I'm using a dewormer in the same family. I know that vets generally have a vague idea of goat medicine so I always question them but having worked with 6 vets at this point I'm willing to try what they say. Luckily I always give more dewormer than suggested. I'm giving the injectable Ivermectin orally, so they are getting 0.6mg/kg, everything I find says 0.4mg/kg besides tennessee meat goats which states to Inject the injectable at a rate of 0.9mg/kg. That was a mouthful, the good news is I will be doing another fecal soon, the last one wasn't bad the highest epg was 23.
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