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06-30-2016, 04:55 AM
Nanno
Hello Nanno
Your not being argumentative, You are asking good questions.!!!! We are having a reasoned Discussion
All I can do is pass on the things I was taught by old horsemen.
Then apply it to goats which is a whole new world. We are both learning and you are ahead.
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Here is the reason no teams I ever worked with "Chained" the neck yolk to the pole.
If you have a major double tree fail, hitch pin falls out,breaks, bounces out. the horses are free to pull off the end pole.
You have a double tree fail you want the horses away from the wagon when they tangle up in the harness not right on top of you.
Get some pictures of Combined Driving Rigs especial when they are doing Cross Country with the pairs,and 4-6 in hand, This is the part were they drive through the streams/mud holes etc. No Chains on the poles and they drive those "Crash Wagons" (Slang Term) are built even more heavy the my wagon here that you saw.
I have seen one application were the neck yolk is "Bolted" to the pole, that was on a grain binder.
As we talked about you can find in Fine Harness driving (Show) chains being used instead of a neck yolk.
Reason: So that a Judge can see the high action of the horses front legs and there is very little weight to the cart they pull in a fine harness class to have to stop. The person driving weighs more than cart. Also with that kind of high leg action they would be banging their knees on the neck yolk.
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OK enough on the above topic for now. Not ending the discussion, just going to wait for your response.
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Moving On:
Now that you are having some success with driving you need to "Improve" your wagon
A brake system is what I am talking about.
Tell Phil you have a project for him No computer needed. For some reason I think he will jump at the chance. 
You need to put brakes on your wagon, Wether they are scrub brakes or hydraulic like your carriages used is up to you. I built several wagons and put hydraulic brakes on all of them even disk brakes like my wagon here has.
For your little wagon a simple scrub brake and goat power would probably work fine.
Think Stage Coach Old style not Modern with drum brakes on the read wheels. That is a Scrub Brake system.
Happy Trails
hihobaron and the Troops in SC
Hello Nanno
Your not being argumentative, You are asking good questions.!!!! We are having a reasoned Discussion
All I can do is pass on the things I was taught by old horsemen.
Then apply it to goats which is a whole new world. We are both learning and you are ahead.
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Here is the reason no teams I ever worked with "Chained" the neck yolk to the pole.
If you have a major double tree fail, hitch pin falls out,breaks, bounces out. the horses are free to pull off the end pole.
You have a double tree fail you want the horses away from the wagon when they tangle up in the harness not right on top of you.
Get some pictures of Combined Driving Rigs especial when they are doing Cross Country with the pairs,and 4-6 in hand, This is the part were they drive through the streams/mud holes etc. No Chains on the poles and they drive those "Crash Wagons" (Slang Term) are built even more heavy the my wagon here that you saw.
I have seen one application were the neck yolk is "Bolted" to the pole, that was on a grain binder.
As we talked about you can find in Fine Harness driving (Show) chains being used instead of a neck yolk.
Reason: So that a Judge can see the high action of the horses front legs and there is very little weight to the cart they pull in a fine harness class to have to stop. The person driving weighs more than cart. Also with that kind of high leg action they would be banging their knees on the neck yolk.
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OK enough on the above topic for now. Not ending the discussion, just going to wait for your response.
=========================================
Moving On:
Now that you are having some success with driving you need to "Improve" your wagon
A brake system is what I am talking about.
Tell Phil you have a project for him
No computer needed. For some reason I think he will jump at the chance. You need to put brakes on your wagon, Wether they are scrub brakes or hydraulic like your carriages used is up to you. I built several wagons and put hydraulic brakes on all of them even disk brakes like my wagon here has.
For your little wagon a simple scrub brake and goat power would probably work fine.
Think Stage Coach Old style not Modern with drum brakes on the read wheels. That is a Scrub Brake system.
Happy Trails
hihobaron and the Troops in SC